Infamous Talisman9 post by Ian Kluge on "Regime Change" in Iran

From: Ian Kluge
Date: Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:15 pm
Subject: RE: [talisman9] Re: Juan Cole on Iran's 'nuclear defiance'
iankluge2000

Dear Bacquia,

Two points:

(1) RE paying attention to what they say: many German Jews made that mistake once too. They dismissed Nazi anti-semitism as 'talk' and cheap vote-getting propaganda. They were wrong - and Israel can't afford to be wrong again. I fully support a first strike on Iran's nuclear facilities wherever they may be hidden and by whatever means are needed to destroy them. If the Iranians deny us their oil, destroy their oil facilities - if we can't have their oil, neither will they.

The US can get most of its oil needs met by Canada (already your largest supplier anyway of oil, gas and electricity). The MacMurray (Alberta) Tarsands have more oil than Saudi Arabia just for starters.

2) I have no idea why the Universal House decided as It did, if It did (I haven't even seen the letter allegedly saying these things.) but off the top of my head, I can imagine at least one major reason.

Regime change (one way or another) is coming in the relatively near future and Baha'is must be there when a new regime is established to make their mark on the new government and help move it in genuinely new directions. If they all Baha'is leave they will have lost all credibility as well as opportunities to legally prosecute their former tormentors.

If you want to play hockey, you've got to be on the ice at game-time.

Best wishes,

Ian Kluge

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From author Dermod Ryder (Asparagus)
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/
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The Beloved Guardian assured us that those diseased people who attacked the Cause of God would deservedly suffer and be destroyed and behold, this vicious one was struck down exactly as you will be destroyed for your wanton and outrageous lies and calumnies.
Advocating a nuclear preemptive strike against Iran:
A better reason for a pre-emptive nuclear attack we have yet to see. The removal of 78 million plus 2 mental defectives from the planet would be a mighty blessing and nuclear is obviously the most economic method.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/
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